« J&J&A…Three compatriots on the train to Almeria… | Main | Henfield Nine Mile Fun Run »

Tuesday, 05 February 2008

Comments

Sweder

I got an e-mail telling me that this comment - from the DA - had been posted here but it's nowhere to be found. I'd like to respond so I've re-posted it here.

"I'm certain the tribute at Old Trafford on Sunday, when United play City, will be marked with respect." I'm not. And I think it was a bad decision to stage the Manc derby this weekend. "Everyone in Manchester, Red or Blue, wept floods of tears at the time." 'At the time', yes. 50 years on, and with all the stuff that's happened in between, emotions are much more complicated. "A minute's silence is the only right way to mark such a solemn occasion. The tumultuous noise during the minute's applause that marked the passing of George Best, at the QPR game I attended, was one of the most moving things I've ever experienced. It would have been far better in these circumstances too - for a whole range of reasons.
Just my view.

Sweder

The minutes' silence was beautifully observed by both sides of the Manchester divide. I simply can't agree that a minutes' applause is the right way to commemorate a tradegy of this nature. It wasn't just United who wanted it this way; the families let iot be known that they prefeerred the traditional mark of respect. Applause to celebrate a players' life - as with Georgie Best, Alan Ball or Phil O'Donnel - I understand and readily support. Would applause be appropriate to mark the anniversary of Hillsborough or Hysel? I think not.

If I've learned anything new from the endless rounds of interviews with survivors the Munich '58 tradegy impacted the whole city of Manchester. I do agree times have changed, that partisan allegiance is more myopic than ever before, but it still seems fitting to me that the two teams from Manchester and their supporters shared the occasion.

What this call for applause suggests - and it's an unpalatable a truth of modern England - is that the fabric of our society is so rotten, has descended so far that we cannot trust our fellow men and women to respect the dead. Moreover that because yobs elect to disrespect this traditional tribute we should do away with it alltogether. Perhaps we should refrain from playing National Anthems before internationals.

What kind of country do we live in? The neanderthals who tainted the occasion at Wembley on Wednesday night are of similar genetic stock to those who kicked a father to death in front of his children. They care for and respect nothing of substance; if it's there, take it and to hell with the consequences. The world owes them a living and if they don't get their way they'll kick and scream and spit and punch and trash your property and wreck the neighborhood, kick your lifeless, interfering body until they get bored. They should be drowned like rats instead of setting the tone, for future generations.

This country is fast becoming an ugly place to be. Those that can are leaving in droves, heading for the Colonies to start anew. The world looks on, shaking it's head. How have we fallen so far in such a short period in our history? It's too depressing. The police seem unable or unwilling to tackle known offenders; they'd rather chase speeding motorists or enforce parking restrictions than tackle drunken youths who may or may not be carrying knives. It's all about quotas, meeting targets. The PC brigade defend to the last the rights of people who appear for all the world to be regressing, devolving back towards the primeval slime from whence we once came. Should we stand up for core values, or pander to the whims of those who would lead us to new dark ages through violence and iintimidation?

I'm sorry, this issue has sparked a rant that's been brewing for a while! It's not intended as an attack on the DA's argument - I just had to get if off my chest.

If we've come to a time when we can't reasonably ask people to stand quietly for 60 seconds in memory of the dead then it's time to ask wider questions about where we're headed. Congratulations to City and their fans. They stood tall and honoured the memory of the fallen before their players took to the field and imparted a footballing lesson on their opponents. There may not be much love in the heart of the city, but today there was at least, for one minute, respect.

Devil's Avocado

I can assure you that there's a suppressed "rant" on the other side of the fence as well.

I'm just glad that life can get back to normal for another 350 days.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

London